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Can NATO survive a war with Russia? — with Carlo Masala

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  • description: In this episode, I sit down with Carlo Masala, one of Europe’s leading security scholars, to discuss his new book If Russia Wins. Our conversation explores the possibility of a Russian victory in a limited war against NATO. We discuss why Carlo Masala chose a scenario-based approach, how a limited Russian incursion could unravel NATO’s Article 5, and why Europe may be far less prepared — militarily, politically, and societally — than many assume. The discussion also covers Germany’s role, the limits of European defense without the United States, Ukraine’s place in a future security architecture, and why resilient societies may matter more than tanks and fighter jets. This is a wide-ranging conversation about deterrence, rearmament, political leadership, and the uncomfortable trade-offs Europe faces in the years ahead. 00:00 Why this book 02:10 The Narva scenario 05:00 Europe’s return to normal 09:40 Breaking NATO’s promise 12:30 Can Europe defend itself? 15:00 NATO without the US 19:30 Germany must lead 27:20 Who will fight? 29:50 Resilient societies 31:10 Ukraine’s future role 38:50 A hyper-nationalist world 48:00 Final reflections Support the channel and get bonus videos: https://www.logicofwar.com
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